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Tax on Short Sale, Loan Modification and Foreclosure – 1099c Cancellation of Debt Income

admin — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:44:07 +0000

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Part 8 – So with the real estate market, we know here in Arizona, there are literally hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people that are confronted with a very difficult decision, declining home values, upside down in the home, the home value is worth much less than they actually owe, we need to give them options. If the option is foreclosure, short sale or loan modification, I would take the modification approach, most likely we would have to look at a person’s situation a little bit closely, but as I am going down some of the things that we have prepared for the show today, it looks like there are four main issues that people should know they need to consider, the cancellation of debt income, capital gains tax issue, the deficiency judgments side, and the credit report side and Mike, I know you can talk to some of these things.

But we brought up in the first segment what I think this might represent and then I think we started to talk about how Mike can help people minimize the impact of what that would look like on the tax return or eliminate based on the situation, so let’s make sure that the people know these four concerns are something they should consider as they seek advice.

Absolutely, and it’s really important that you talk to each arm of the team. You’re not going to be able to make all of these decisions just by talking to your tax guy, or your mortgage guy. They all need to be on the same page, because one of the decisions by one of the three is going to impact the other two aspects of the situation.

Mike, that’s a really good point. And thats one of the reasons why we work together, Brett and I are working together and you and Brett have been working together for years and the three of us have like ideals and also know for the most part what the ramifications are from any one of our decisions. And we make sure were able to do the very best for the homeowner every single time, whether it be tax, financial advice, or loan modification, or even refinance.

People forget that we talk so much about loan modifications. It’s kind of nice because youre listening to all these lying ads about refinancing and other crap that’s gone on out there But the reality of it is there is still money out there to lent. Were still helping people out with refinancing and refinance is the first thing people should try to do with a bank thats licensed by the federal government to do these types of high loan to value FHA type loans.

You cant muddle through the tax issues without Mike Patenella working with you, and you sure should not be making huge financial decisions without Brett Fallon and his team. So we all work hard to make sure that your ultimate goal is in your best interest.

I know were getting up to the end of the hour the show is about to draw to a close, but to just give people a sense that what were talking about today is the ability to have your personal financial situation accessed. Were going to take a look at modification options or refinance options. If your mortgage is distressed were no longer suits your needs. You’re looking to move whatever it is. We will look at your tax ramifications and Mike Patenella will be happy to go through those issues with you step by step basis. And I would be happy to take a look at your overall financial picture and give you some guidance or suggestions on things that will improve the financial situations… http://realestatemarketingthisweek.com

Duration : 0:6:50

How to Get a Buyer to Pay 2nd Mortgage Extra

admin — Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:08:56 +0000

This short sale video is a case study on how to get a retail buyer to pay a 2nd mortgage extra money to get a transaction closed. This is extremely important to real estate agents and investors alike.

Duration : 0:4:59

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U.S. Sub-Prime Mortgage Crisis

admin — Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:28:06 +0000

A rundown of the U.S. financial crisis stemming from sub-prime mortgages.

Duration : 0:2:10

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Short Sale – Expert to Negotiate Loan Modification and Short Sale

admin — Tue, 03 Aug 2010 00:45:19 +0000

http://realestatemarketingthisweek.com/short-sales/short-sale-and-loan-modification-make-sure-you-work-with-and-expert/ – Short Sale and Loan Modification; Make sure you Work with an Expert –

Part 2 – Were just going to go ahead if we could and just jump right into the short sale information. Jeri, again thank you so much for taking the time to be with us. What is the name of your firm?

Our group is Dream Vesting Group and our brokerage is Keller Williams Arizona Realty.

So that is great, licensed agents with Keller Williams and I know the two of you and I know of your history and we will talk a little bit more about that, but you have been working together for awhile. You and I had a chance to speak about the short sales and your success rate, very, very impressive proven results always helps. So the natural first question for those that are listening today. What is a short sale exactly?

A short sale is a property sale where the bank or lender agrees to accept less than what is owed to them. So the bank is agreeing to take a loss on the sale of your property, and I like what you said earlier about not trusting a loan modification or a short sale to just anybody, you definitely dont want to be the guinea pig and you dont want to approach the bank yourself and ask them to please take a loss because you need to sell your home.

And that is one of the things that is funny nowadays. I know people have seen them pop up all over the town, the ugly yellow bill boards all over the place. Advertising on the radio about loan modifications and they have 100% success rate, all kinds of these different things. The same thing with short sales, you actually have a process and you have a lot of experience doing it, you know the ins and the outs and this isnt a part time job this is a fulltime job.

Absolutely is a fulltime more than fulltime job, the last three Sundays I have been on the phones with lenders when they are open, one of them has a call center in India. I have been on the phone from 10 oclock at night until Midnight and again at 6am with the same lender trying to stop foreclosure.

Well that is good that you have the time, Take the time to do that. I am sorry that you have to work that many hours but you know Kalyn, is it not true that the sooner we get through all of these short sales and loan modifications the better off were all going to be anyway right?

Absolutely, a lot of people ask, what does it take? Who should be considering a short sale? If youre late on your mortgage currently, if your mortgage has adjusted, if you can no longer afford your monthly payment, if you foresee yourself not being able to afford your monthly payments, any of these instances plus several more, you should definitely be sitting down with someone and talking about your options which would be most likely a short sale or loan modification.

Yes the last thing anyone wants, and I mean anyone, is a foreclosure, that is the last resort. Nobody wants a foreclosure; you dont want it on your record, you dont want to have to deal with that. Its a very public event, a foreclosure is, the banks dont want you to foreclose and that is probably why they are so willing to work with you would you say? Absolutely the banks dont want the home back no matter what they tell you.

Exactly and on the loan modification side people try on their own to do this and its true that people can actually do a loan modification on their own but there are so many pitfalls and its just not something you want to try on your own. Surely you dont want to try a short sale on your own. So Jeri let me ask you this, what are some of the main objections?

The main objection that we hear from most of our clients is the cost to them, they already cant afford the payment on their mortgage or they wouldnt be in that particular situation 9 times out of 10 and so they are concerned about cost. Most people have already resigned themselves to the fact that they are losing their home and they dont want to spend any more money on it.

The good news is in a short sale you dont have to spend anymore money, all of the costs are absorbed by the bank. They agree to lose more money basically, so there is no realtor fees and the majority of the time we can negotiate an as is contract so if there are repairs that need to be made they dont come to you and ask you to do it, its just factored into the cost. So its very effective for homeowners.

And again it keeps them from going into foreclosure. They get to stay in the house and they get to save whatever is left of their dignity, some people take it very pride fully as well. So Kalyn, the second most common objection is?… http://realestatemarketingthisweek.com

Duration : 0:6:34

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Loan Modification – Home Mortgage Modification Process, Attorney Processed Federal Hardship Program

admin — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:40:03 +0000

Mortgage Modification – Home Loan Modification Process – How to Plan for Federal Laws, Credit Rules and Hardship Letter Requirements — News and Help on Attorney Negotiated Bailout Package – Real Estate Foreclosure Scams and Bankruptcy Prevention – http://realestatemarketingthisweek.com/real-estate/congressman-barney-frank-is-calling-for-the-restructure-of-the-loan-servicing-business/ – Congressman Barney Frank is calling for the restructure of the loan servicing business – RealEstateMarketingThisWeek.com

Part 2 – Well, in the past we have talked a lot about loan modifications and since the first time we started talking about loan modifications the whole space has changed. Everything about loan modifications since our very first broadcast talking about it, we don’t talk about it every week, but we do talk about it allot. It has changed so much, when we started anybody who had a significant hardship, or financial hardship, or had one of these toxic mortgages, that had adjusted, would be able to qualify for a loan modification. These things have changed all of a sudden, and not all across the board. Brett you made a comment earlier that people are concerned that once these servicers do these modifications they could be subject to lawsuits right?

Yes, it is amazing how quickly things have changed over the course of the last couple of weeks, it seems this information, and this news is changing almost hour by hour, at this point one of the things that came out regarding this mortgage modification program is from Barney Frank, “Congress should act to restructure the servicing of home mortgages.” So the idea is that they are catching on to something that you and your team at velocity financial were ahead of the curve on in terms of loan modifications.

Knowing that those rules for a hardship and why you are entitled to one have definitely changed. Now it is more of a situation where in order to stop foreclosure, to stop the problems associated with this mass foreclosure market place, modifications are being talked about amongst the banks now. Barney Franks comments today, he stressed how these voluntary inducements to get these private entities to protect homeowners from the government has fallen short, and Hank Paulson has fallen short of putting their weight behind this concept.

Although I personally believe that is the next evolution of this. Loan Modifications are a critical step for people who are feeling this economic crisis, and for people who want to stay in a home, for people who need this type of assistance. The idea is you have a short window of opportunity here before something else significant changes where you may no longer be entitled to.

You heard Citigroup, you know this we talked about it, Citigroup came out and made the announcement that they were going to suspend their pursuit of foreclosures in certain areas of the country that have the highest unemployment rate, that was the caveat. We will see how big the scope of that gets, but the whole idea is for you as a mortgage owner, as a home owner with a mortgage, if you need to establish a modification to an existing loan, in order to have more favorable terms in interest, a more favorable monthly payment, a way to keep that home, you have to look at this option.

Yes, and I appreciate you saying that one of the things that Citigroup announced they were going to be doing was giving people teaser rates of 1%. Look anybody with a brain can realize that that is ludicrous. What got us into this situation in the first place was huge banks, just like that one, giving people toxic mortgages, with fake interest rates, and pick your own payment, do whatever the heck you want to. It is exactly what they are trying to do again.

Essentially what they are talking about is giving people a short window of a very low interest rate, but they are going to be back in the same situation in the future. That’s why the loan modifications that we do, that we hire on your behalf, the national network of attorney’s that we use. We go for the throat, we are not looking to get you a 1% interest rate for the next 12 months. We are looking to get you a lifelong, or for the term of the loan if possible, the very lowest interest rate available, and fix it or extend the term so you can actually sustain that payment well beyond the short term.

One thing I want to point out before we have to go to a break, if you know of anyone out there, that has a GMAC mortgage, whether it be a GMAC first mortgage or second mortgage, you have got to tune in to the second segment you are not going to believe this scam that’s out there, going against people with these loans… http://realestatemarketingthisweek.com

Duration : 0:5:49

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Real Estate Financing – Avoid Deceptive Mortgage Practices – RealEstateMarketingThisWeek.com

admin — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:20:04 +0000

http://realestatemarketingthisweek.com/real-estate/b-of-a-and-countrywide-pay-150m-fine-for-deceptive-mortgage-practices/ – B of A and Countrywide pay $150M fine for deceptive mortgage practices –

Part 8 – I have here in my hand something from the office of the attorney general Terry Goddard, this is in regard to B of A and Countrywide. The state has alleged that prior to 2008 that Countrywide used unfair and deceptive tactics in its loan originating and servicing activity and placed borrowers in structurally unfair and unaffordable loans. These are not my words folks this is from the office of Terry Goddard the Attorney General of Arizona

They are talking about lowering peoples rates for the first year only. Look a good loan modification, you dont need a 12 month reprieve if you are 2, 3, or 4 months behind on your mortgage, it is going to take a little bit more than 12 months to get back on your feet.

I was going to say what an important point that you are making is because the announcement today by Paulson regarding the money not being used to buy these bad mortgages any longer, because of Barney Franks comments about how banks need to do more to help avoid foreclosures for mortgagees, what that really is amounting to for me as someone who studies the financial marketplace every single day as part of my profession, what that really amounts to is banks being able to set terms, and the short term reprieves, and the importance of what you are doing right now is critical for people to understand.

You are ahead of the curve, you go to the bank for these modification purposes, you take the proactive steps to make the terms suitable for you, my point is if the bank, by Terry Goddards letter, already has asserted that they have made some type of poor judgment in the way that they treated their mortgagees or the people that they gave loans to, why would you then go back to that bank as the owner of that mortgage and try to negotiate with them on your own? Why then would you have the trust in them that it was going to work to your best possible out come? I find that to be absurd.

You are absolutely right; they have essentially admitted to it, they have a $150,000,000 settlement. I just want to throw one more thing out there, they have a $150,000,000 bill that they have to pay because, according to the Attorney General, deceptive business practices, a hundred and fifty million dollar check that they have to write, somebody is going to have to make that up.

And that is a good point, the point of this would be to take this action yourself prior to these banking institutions making the decisions on your behalf, theyve already done this, they have already made those decisions on your behalf, whether or not you knew exactly what type of loan program you were getting involved with when you took out the loan and all of that.

If you find yourself in a position of not being able to maintain your existing mortgage payment under the terms that you have been issued by the bank, modification is something you should consider, you make the terms going forward, you should use the professional expertise and the negotiating abilities of these attorneys that specialize in this area and make this work for you before the rules are placed at your feet yet again.

We talk about people doing this on there own, what I see being the problem is they are going to send you out a packet of paperwork, maybe email it to you or fax it. I have seen the paperwork that they send out, it is more than 36 pages of legalese, once it goes back it is going to sit in front of the loss mitigation department in a stack, Ive seen the stacks, literally thousands of cases sitting there waiting to be reviewed by someone who may very well not be qualified to make a real decision, in my opinion using the loss mitigation department at the bank you may be dealing with a clerk that was answering sales calls for someone else two months ago.

Versus going to the legal department and dealing with those individuals directly. There is no doubt you absolutely have to use professionals, you need to put your head on the pillow and turn this over to somebody who knows what they are doing, an expert negotiator, a paid attorney that does this for a living, put your head on your pillow and keep your family safe in your home… http://RealEstateMarketingThisWeek.com

Duration : 0:6:10

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Real Estate & Mortgage Marketing 7 – Home Loan Modification Dec08 Attorney Negotiated Loan Mod

admin — Sat, 10 Jul 2010 10:51:05 +0000

Home Loan Modifications Negotiated by Licensed Attorneys. Real Estate & Mortgage Laws and Guidelines are Complex. Beware of the Banks Loss Mitigation Department. Go To http://RealEstateMarketingThisWeek.com

Part 7 (Excerpt)

Attorney negotiated loan modification process Going thru the Legal Door

We have Dan Havey with us talking about loan modifications. This segment we want to talk about the specifics of the actual mechanics of, how does it actually work for the homeowner? Let me just start it off and if you would then explain the back end of how it works. Our job is to determine where you’re at now, be very specific about where you’re at with your mortgage now, what the rate is, what it’s done, those specifics. How much you make? We have to help the lender with one thing which is to establish a hardship which is crucial to this. You can’t be making half $1 million a year paying $5000 a month in a mortgage, they are not just going to lower your interest rate because you want it. There actually has to be some sort of change, financial change, hardship.

We determined that and then there is a significant amount of paperwork involved, Velocity Financial takes care of that for you. We fill out the paperwork along with your help, review all of the documentation, we then recommend be right loan modification, whether it be an interest rate reduction, or extending the term of your loan, waiving some of the balance that you owe which is very very rare. To make sure that once we’re done with this whole process you can sustain and live in that house and be happy forever.

So the process itself really is not that much different than what people went through when they got their loan in the first place. That is correct and it’s kind of funny, this has to be exactly the reverse. There is paperwork that we need to collect on your mortgages, we check the value of the property to see where you’re at and in most cases youre underwater with the value. We dont do an appraisal though, there is no credit analysis, we do review your finances, and these sorts of things but essentially it’s just like doing a loan. What we’re trying to determine is exactly what is sustainable for you.

So what we do at the modification hotline at Velocity Financial is to put together the entire package, just like we do for a loan package because we basically send this to a underwriter, theyre not known as an underwriter they’re known as a loan modification coordinator but at modification hotline we are the first set of eyes. We work with you directly, getting all the paperwork in, getting it put together because we know exactly what has to be in that file, how it has to be stacked, how it has to be presented, before it goes to the loan modification coordinator who works for the attorney.

Then once it is at the attorneys office with their modification coordinator, they take a look at it, they make sure that everything is in there, they make sure that it is a doable modification. This all happens before it is ever presented to an attorney.

There are a whole lot of steps and there is a lot of paperwork. The process like you said is very similar to a loan with the exception that there are no costs of the title company and all that other stuff. Those dont exist, we dont charge an upfront fee, and we do collect a retainer for the attorney. At some point during our process we make our recommendations and we turn it in. Then the attorney does their due diligence and thats where I really want you to explain what happens, what are these attorneys looking for?

Well this is where it completely goes off track, versus what a homeowner would do if they were doing their own modification, because they would do everything we just talked about, they would fill out the paperwork, get together tax returns, pay stubs, whatever the lender wanted and they would present all of it to the lender. Now they probably wouldn’t know exactly how to stack some of the paperwork, and how to calculate some of the things that we know how to calculate, but they would put all that they work together.

Where the difference comes in is once it gets to the attorney because the attorney ultimately wants to get you a loan modification but they can’t just call up the bank and say hey I want loan modification, because he is going to get the same result you did. So what he has to do is he has to go through the file, and he has to look for things like, I am going to use a bunch of acronyms here, he’s looking for things like TILA, RESPA, HOEPA, HUD violations, all these different guidelines that the lender was required to meet while giving you the loan.

Duration : 0:6:47

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Real Estate Woes: Subprime Mortgages Are a Ticking Timebomb

admin — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 00:04:20 +0000

Center for American Progress Senior Fellow Dr Christian Weller appeared on CNBC to discuss subprime mortgages and how consumers can protect themselves.

For more on subprime mortgages and foreclosure rates please see:

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2007/03/foreclosures_numbers.html

What if 40 hours a week were enough?
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Mortgage Modification 3 – Home Loan & Real Estate Marketing Nov08 – Scams, Fraud & Loss Mitigation

admin — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 01:53:14 +0000

Attorney Negotiated Mortgage Modification for Home Owners. Expert Advice on Real Estate and Loan Mods. Avoid Foreclosure Scams and Fraud. Prevent Bankruptcy. Go To http://RealEstateMarketingThisWeek.com

Part 3 (Excerpt)

Beware of phishing schemes and bank scams GMACs clients hit hard

As promised just before the break, I told you to, listen in if you know anyone who has a GMAC Mortgage, this is one of those too good to be true things. Heres the thing, I have no issues what-so-ever with GMAC, thats not what Im saying, what Im saying is there is a scam of sorts that is going around. A client of ours received a letter, we did a second mortgage for this person a few years ago, they received a letter from GMAC, it looked like GMAC, it sounded like GMAC, and it said that we are willing to forgive your second mortgage of 200 and some thousand dollars in lieu of a one time payment, payable within the next 30 days, of say 20 thousand dollars.

I dont recall the exact amount or what it was. There is a phone number on there, it says loss mitigation department on it, a person assigned to this case. They called the phone number, they answered the phone as if you were calling into the loss mitigation department, and verified if you just send us this amount they will release the lien. Well it is completely false. It is absolutely not true.

These people are not going to seek you out on their own, now whether it be GMAC, today we have actually seen that one, there may be other ones out there. Folks, if you are getting stuff like this you need to verify it and you need to verify it by sources other than the information on the letter that you have received. If you get an email that says your bank account has been tapped into you need to check, chances are it is some kind of a phishing scam and this is no different.

We have gone back to identity theft through the mail and if you have been a party to this you need to verify and check into it, and you need to contact the authorities immediately for more information, if you need help with this sort of situation you are welcome to give us a call at 480 Velocity.

It is pretty amazing that that kind of thing still exists, and with the announcement by Paulson today that the fact is they are no longer willing to buy bad mortgages off the books of the banks. When you come across a phishing scam such as this one there is not a bank out there, I dont care what kind of trouble they are in, that is going to take $0.10 on the dollar to forgive a loan.

In a situation where things are going well, you are right in a situation where things are going well, and the status quo, they are going to be pursued by an attorney, that is entirely different, they are not just going to volunteer up and give you the money, its not going to happen.

Absolutely not and thats where we get back into what a loan modification is, who it benefits, and how it works and so forth, you are starting to see these wheels in motion amongst all of these banks. One of those wheels is certainly not well forgive $200,000 in debt if you write us a check for $20, 000.

And when we have talked about this Brett you and I have had many conversations in regard to what does it take? Can a person do this on their own, we will get to that a little later, but the answer is Yes. A consumer can actually do it on their own, up until very recently with the new announcements made from some of these major servicers and investors, up until then, a person trying to do it on their own would take days upon days and hours and hours on the phone not getting calls back trying to find time during the day while working to get this done and in many cases they are going to get a temporary fix.

The loss mitigation department for the bank that you have your mortgage with, their job is not to mitigate your loss its to mitigate their loss. They are out to protect the bank, thats why we use the national network of attorneys that we do, that are specialists, that have done thousands of these loan modifications, that go to bat for you. By the way folks, they are not going through the loss mitigation door that you would have to go through they are going right to the legal department, they are going to threaten suit if necessary, they are going to do discovery work, they are going to find out if there was anything that was misrepresented either by the bank or the broker and take that angle…

Duration : 0:5:36

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Taxes on Short Sale, Loan Modification & Mortgage Foreclosure 4 Nov08 Interest Rate & Payment

admin — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 07:08:34 +0000

Tax on 1099C, Cancellation of Debt Income; Short Sale, Loan Modification & Foreclosure. Exception; Mortgage Forgiveness Debt Relief Act, Bankruptcy & Insolvency. Go To http://RealEstateMarketingThisWeek.com

Part 4 (Excerpt)

1099 C is for Cancellation of Debt Income Only, not for Interest Rate and Payment Reduction

So for people who find themselves in a very difficult situation considering these options whether it’s a loan modification or a short sale, whatever they need to do to relieve themselves of this particular burden of a mortgage, that for whatever reason they’re no longer able to maintain, they are not always considering the tax ramifications associated with taking a specific course of action, like this example the short sale option.

Right there is actually two pieces of tax component here, you have the forgiveness of debt income that we talked about, they still have the fact that you sold your house and you have to see if there was a gain on that. Over and above the cost basis of the home.

We talked about the 1099Cs a few moments ago, did you say that the lender sends a copy of the 1099C to the IRS? Absolutely.

Now I’m the guy for a few minutes ago who bailed on $400,000 and sold it for $300,000 am I going to get a copy of the 1099C if I haven’t given my lender my new address. Well that could be a problem, they will send it to the last address they have on record for you. And as a homeowner it’s my problem.

The IRS will get a copy, so they will look for it on your return, if you forget to put it on then you’re going to get a friendly notice from the IRS.

If somebody is going to do a short sale, its a fairly civil transaction and when I say civil I mean going for a short sale is horrible for them and their family, but it beats the alternative which is foreclosure, and I think the real problem is when there’s a foreclosure and the guy just walks away and moves off to El Centro California, he’s the one who’s really getting hurt.

So in the event that somebody takes a course of action, and I know that Velocity financial and Michael Barnes, youre not necessarily advocates for that short sale approach. It’s not normally the best course of action, we’ve been talking about loan modifications and it would help me when I talk to clients, or people who call from radio broadcasts who asked questions about loan modification process as part of a financial strategy, help me with some of the tax ramifications. Let’s say that I have a loan and I know the best thing for me is a loan modification, am I going to be faced with a 1099? A tax bill at the end of a loan modification?

Yes, the first of the two tax implications will apply which will be the debt forgiveness part.

I didn’t mean to interrupt you Mike, well I said there are several different types of loan modifications, I believe are you asking about when the loan modification is where they actually do forgive some of the debt?

Thats a point, I know there’s been a lot of discussion on the use of the TARP funds especially from the federal government regarding these banks that qualify for some of these funds, they have to do principle reductions for their mortgages. So let’s say there isn’t a principal reduction involved, from that aspect, its not a taxable event that could take place, since I’m not reducing my principal, I’m simply getting a reduction in my term or my rate.

That’s right, the only time that taxes would come into play is when the principal gets reduced because thats forgiveness of debt.

So let’s take that one step further, whatever mortgage interest I’m able to deduct on my taxes may be impacted if it’s a lower percentage, right because youll be paying less interest, but there’ll be no surprise 1099 coming your way if its just an interest modification.

One of the things that I like to make thing clear is that were trying to do the best for you the homeowner so you can stay in your home. The situation I’m talking about, the $400,000, the lender is more likely than not is not going to forgive $100,000, however the same lender is more than willing to reduce your interest rate so that your payment would be the same if they have done the principal reduction, because it’s not a permanent loss for the bank. If there is someone out there who’s telling you that they can have your mortgage reduced by tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars, it’s not going to happen and I doubt it’s going to happen anytime soon.

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